A husband arrives home after his wife spent a few hours at the beauty shop enjoying a “makeover day”.   Upon noticing his wifes new hairdo he remarks your hair looks beautiful.   She responds:

 “do you like my hair better this way, or the way I used to have it”?

There is no way to answer this   question safely because the Mrs. has just presented an example of “Prog Logic Thought”.   If the Mr. says the new style is best, the Mrs. will proclaim “how come you never told me you hated my old hair”; conversely if the Mr. says the former style was preferred, well, watch out…. nuf said.
This cognitive framing of progressive logic (prog-logic) extends into many areas of discussion, including Mark O’Mara.   But before talking about the specific examples of Mark O’Mara lets review some more easy to frame historical examples. (more…)

Hat Tip Froggie who provides the Transcript of the conversation where O’Mara of Nazareth requests Alms from Disciples on Piers Morgan Show…..
“MORGAN: Coming up, the man who killed Trayvon Martin is out of jail on a million dollars bond. Next, George Zimmerman’s attorney tells me exclusively what Zimmerman has said since he got out.

MORGAN: George Zimmerman, the man who shot and killed Trayvon Martin, is out of jail on one million dollars bond. But his attorney made a statement that’s been pretty controversial. Joining me now in his first exclusive interview since he got his client released is that attorney, Mark O’Mara. Mark, welcome back.
MARK O’MARA, ATTORNEY FOR GEORGE ZIMMERMAN: Good evening. How you doing, Piers?
MORGAN: Your client is out. He got his bond. People have been a little bit surprised. I’m going to take this straight to you for your reaction tot his, about the strategy that you’ve adopted, which is to go public and say, if you agree that my clients’ actions were with justified, then donate money to his defense funds.
Tell me about the thinking behind the strategy, and about the way that it’s now blown up as a bit of a controversial thing for you to have done.
O’MARA: Well, it is a bit unique, again. And I’m a bit conflicted by it, to be honest. We try to deal with the reality that George does not have any funds of his own. He can only get those funds from his supporters. And a lot of those supporters, the comments they’ve given us have shown a variety — a spectrum of support, a lot of which are those that believe that George did, in fact, act appropriately. (more…)

Use this thread as an open thread just for Zimmerman Case stuff. A place to just dump, collect, or discuss general information about the Trayvon Martin VS George Zimmerman Case.

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Some, well, actually eight Treepers want the research on Mark O’Mara to stop.  They include: Mwsomerset, bill, M4, Labrat, Stephaufla, ejarra, Sandy, raiikun, and CleaningMyGun specifically.  Four more apparently think it is a waste of  time, they include:  CiGuy, Chirality, Risefrombelow and Freedom Patriot.
So in essence that’s twelve people who think O’Mara is a solid attorney for George Zimmerman.   There are probably a few more unknown.  Fair enough.
Question:  Imagine we are at war.  We are on an aircraft carrier and we have been told we are headed to battle.   What good does it do for us to muster in the Combat Ops planning room preparing our plans for an island assault strategy when the captain of the ship is steaming forward in a different direction?
All the conversational planning in the world ain’t gonna help us when we arrive at a divergent destination than we anticipated.  That’s why it’s kinda important to know exactly who is steering the ship, where it is headed, and what to expect.  No?
To borrow a thought from Gretchen:   Some here are willingly blinded by the luminescence of a “very experienced and competent criminal trial lawyer” a constant refrain among those who defend Mark O’Mara.
Mark O’Mara’s manifold errors have been exposed and blogged about here, in detail I might add, yet do not seem to make an impression. One must not look at the growing mountain of FACTS, but must seek to fixate on one thing or another that bolsters a particular viewpoint, apparently.  (more)

“a very experienced and competent criminal trial lawyer”? (more…)

Use this thread as an open thread just for Zimmerman Case stuff. A place to just dump, collect, or discuss general information about the Trayvon Martin VS George Zimmerman Case.

REMINDER – Please WATCH THE TONE and CONTENT of Commentary. Please be respectful, courteous and considerate of other readers and contributors. Please avoid hatespeak, angry rhetoric, vulgarity, personal attacks and condescension. If you wish to engage in vitriolic, racist, or bitter angry rhetoric, there are alternative sites on the internet more than welcoming to such considerations. But not here. Thank You.

If you have not read the books (trilogy), you should.   If you haven’t watched the movie, well, that’s good too.   Both Treeper Sibilj and Treeper DiwataMan remind me of these two characters; they are quite good dot connectors and in a most unusual way they are keenly on the same trail from two different angles… quite similar.   Life imitates art.
DiwataMan has a construct of what he calls a conspiracy theory – Sibilj has a prediction for where this is headed.   The theory is really close to dead center mass – The prediction is, well, unless things change quickly, at this point, a virtual certainty.

[comment] Why are people claiming that other people are claiming O’Mara is going to throw or lose the case purposefully?  Has Sundance or anyone claimed that?  My position is that, albeit conspiratorial, this case will go to trial no matter what and the powers that be are going to make sure that happens. The main reason is that no one then but a jury will be responsible for impending riots, everyone has covered their butts.
Has O’Mara had anything regarding this case that would allow him to file to get the case thrown out? Will he have a SYG hearing? I bet he will but I bet it will also fail, it has to fail or else that judge who would throw the case out then would be the one to have to answer to all of his little buddies as to why he just allowed the State of Florida to be put into a position of potentially losing billions of dollars, lol, nobody want to be that guy, this thing is going to a jury and the decision to make sure that happens probably occurred when Bondi and Scott got together.  (continue reading)

DiwataMan is mostly right, and essentially on the right track here.   Indeed if I have given anyone the opinion that a loss in this case is Zimmerman in jail, then allow me to clear up the miscommunication on my part.   A loss is this case going to TRIAL. (more…)

Major big time HatTip to Treeper Froggielegs for digging up the golden nugget we needed to finally prove what we have suspected for a while.   And with the helpful brilliance of Ad rem Puddy capturing the moments, we are finally able to highlight the setup of George Zimmerman and expose the dark underbelly of the Sanford Machinations.

Black Entertainment Television (BET) aired a Trayvon Martin Exclusive hosted by Emmitt Miller on April 20th.     April 20th is the same date of the First Bond Hearing for George Zimmerman and nine days after Mark O’Mara took over as lead defense attorney (4/11).
There are two videos.   Part II is the segment where the ulterior motives of Mark O’Mara surface and things click into place.
Key things to note in video #1:
         
Pam Bondi phone call to Tracy and Sybrina – Listen to what she says – Remember Pam Bondi and Benjamin Crump are personal friends from the Martin Lee Anderson case.   Bondi was the State Prosecutor and Crump was the Anderson family civil lawyer suing the state of Florida and Bay County.  It was Bondi who talked Rick Scott into selecting Angela Corey as the prosecutor of George Zimmerman.  Ugh, ugh, ugh….. It’s a trap.
Also note how Benjamin Crump lawyerly parses his words regarding Trayvon’s school records.  We know Trayvon was excessively tardy, absent 53 days in the current school year, and serving his Third 10-day suspension at the time he was staying in Sanford.

Use this thread as an open thread just for Zimmerman Case stuff. A place to just dump, collect, or discuss general information about the Trayvon Martin VS George Zimmerman Case.

REMINDER – Please WATCH THE TONE and CONTENT of Commentary. Please be respectful, courteous and considerate of other readers and contributors. Please avoid hatespeak, angry rhetoric, vulgarity, personal attacks and condescension. If you wish to engage in vitriolic, racist, or bitter angry rhetoric, there are alternative sites on the internet more than welcoming to such considerations. But not here. Thank You.

L 🙂 L   From Treeper KP

Omar and Sibilj have provided some good food for thought regarding Mark O’Mara.   But before presenting their articulate comments for expansion I need to clarify a few things.
Some of you might see me use the term “prog” in many of my posts and comments.  Let me identify what I mean and position the backdrop for future understanding.  Truth has no agenda – People Do.
There is a keen, albeit difficult to grasp at times, distinction between advocacy and ideology.
I am open, wide open, to being an advocate for Mark O’Mara, but honesty, intellectual honesty, demands a substantive reason.  I have outlined twenty specific instances when my capacity to grant benefit of doubt, toward altruistic intention, has been stretched.
Simultaneously, by conviction, I must also be open to being more favorable to Trayvon Martin’s family position if presented with substantive, factual, and valid reasoning. (more…)